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Why are Haven Spas FAR and AWAY the BEST Value and Best Quality? (Read 1162 times)
Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 2:10pm

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http://spaspecialist.com/spa-challenge.html

This is the famous "Spa Challenge" that not one single spa company wanted to participate in.

Except for Haven Spas. We wanted so badly to improve the spa industry, and we even had one of our suppliers who also wanted to see this test take place.

They put the "Invite to the Challenge" in every one of their newsletters going out to every spa manufacture in the USA.
So, we know that they saw it.

For $7000 they could have their spa entered in the challenge, and that would pay for the concrete work and the electricity and the electric meters on their spas as well as the independent engineering company to do the daily testing. Now it would be about $15,000 because of inflation . Still this was a tiny drop of money for companies like Hot Spring, Caldera, D1, Cal Spas, Master Spas, Thermo Spas and all the others who say they have the best spas. Well, we may never find the truth. It is a sad day for consumers to know that these companies refused to have their spas evaluated by engineers over a few months in winter in Colorado. It is similar to a "stock car" race, when they used to actually be stock off the shelf cars.

Today, wow, we would win in every category, with our cheapest spas, using our technology for therapy.  You have never felt anything like our power massage therapy.
 

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Nov 8th, 2016 at 10:41am

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We have made several improvements to our already proven reliability and extreme energy efficiency. We have upgraded our production facility to handle these new procedures.

When we took the manufacturing to Holland, we decided to upgrade everything.  It was an easy decision to do so, because electric costs in Holland are more than even California or Vermont where they are "gouged" for electricity in my opinion.   Tesla would be twisting and turning in his grave if he knew how much this was going on.   He was a promoter of free electricity for everyone.

For instance, if you live in California, and pay the 2000 USD to ship a Haven Spa to you, you would recoup the cost for the spa about $10,000 total, in less than 7 years just for the electric savings alone.

What we did to the insulation has never been done before and after testing it we put a guarantee in Holland of less than 4.5 KWH per day to maintain the spa in winter.   This is WAY less than all the California regulations on energy.  AND the water is hot and ready to go with extremely well filtered water.

There is no secretes to thermodynamics, so I often wonder how is it that spas are made so stupidly and call them "engineered".   Well considering the fact that 40% of high school graduates in the USA cannot read above the 5th grade, and the academic standards have been lowered drastically, I can see why engineers have no ability to go beyond the stupid crap of the past and rely totally on what they believe, vs what is real.

I have asked this very simple question to PhD's of engineering and some are "specialist" on energy:

What is the phenomenon in foam insulation (like a Styrofoam cup) that is working to make foam "insulation"? 

So far, not one of them knows.  The reason is simple,  it is not taught in any university. The foundation of insulation and how it works is unknown to them.  What they know is "formulas" on using it not how it works.

And the really funny part is how they answer this question and the arrogance that goes along with a poor education is clear. They are pumped up, thinking they are special and have some "special" place in society and "special knowledge" because of their PhD.  This is a very sad way to be.   It is apparent in the designs of spas today that this poor level of engineering exists.

The USA is about number 30 in science. Even Africa (when people are afforded education) and South America has better training for MD's and Engineers.   My personal MD got his training in South America, and is better prepared to serve his patients than the US Doctors I have recently had.   My old doctor who was in his 70's when he retired was very through and very well experienced.  It is too bad that these doctors are ALL gone.

Here is the evidence:  according to the US government (which gives LOW stats) over 400,000 people are killed by medical incompetence every year and up from 225,000 just three years ago, a 178% rise in "Death by Doctor".  The "informal" studies on this show over 750,000 die each year who would have lived if they had good medical.   And none of these doctors are in prison.  Basically, they are given a license to kill and get away with it.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Dea...

According to the US Government, over 12,000,000 people are harmed every year by medical incompetence; given the wrong treatment or drugs for a wrong diagnoses.  They even miss cancer every day. This causes the cancer to grow and kill people as well.  STD's are often times diagnosed as the flu. 

My point is this, where are the really good engineers?  Where are the really good Doctors? It looks like they are in Russia, Denmark, Holland, Japan and in China now. In China with the pressure to grow an economy in China they are drastically improving in tech.  MOST (70% is the last statistic I read on this) of the PhD students in the USA are from the orient and from foreign countries. They are foreigners.  This should tell you how pathetic the US education system is in preparing students for college.

Anyway.  Haven Spas has mastered the art and science of spa engineering.   Making smooth running therapy machines that out perform for price point any other spa and are about 25 years ahead in therapy and design.

Here is a video from our factory in Holland.  You will notice that Martyn is showing the "Energy Meter" we offer with our spas in Holland. This is so the owners can see the actual energy the spa is using.  You would be insane as a salesperson of other spas to offer this, because reality would destroy the illusion presented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC756xxT0Cw

 

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