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Hot Tubs, Who You
Buy From
Is Important.

copyright 1999 through 2008, Havenmade Inc.
Spa Shell Structure
The Most important part!
Havenmade Inc.
Our
customers get an education, they buy from us with
knowledge.
There are still a lot of people buying inferior made shells
on their spas. There are companies that are so proud of their
"profit margin", touting : "We have the highest profit margin
because of our low cost manufacturing."
I really do not like these companies. As a
consumer,
you have
no clue how cheaply made these spas are, until you read my information
and
the information of a few obscure web sites. Almost all of
the
cheapness in these Southern California made spas is hidden
beneath the surface.
There should be a law that all spa stores show a sample of
the shell structure
of the spas they sell. Or at least have to explain how cheaply
they
are made.
This company referred to above is on my hit list of spa
companies that
need to go away. Their customers are victims of their own
ignorance.
Anytime the word
ABS plastic is used in the same sentence
as the word
spa shell, walk away.
Anytime the word ABS plastic is used in the same sentence
as the word
spa shell, walk away. Unless the spa sells for less
than
$2500, and all you want is a throwaway item. Unfortunately, the
marketing
department of this company tells everyone that these spas are the best
of
the best. Better than any other spa
brand. There
is no law about what a sales person may deem to be the best or whether
or
not he may believe these spa are the best. The best spa as
far
as he is concerned is the one with the most profit!
Driven by the lust for money, the companies making these
types of spas
keep fooling the public. The brochures are beautiful pieces of
art,
depicting the spas in a wonderful light.
These spa companies are now putting the fact that the shells are made
from ABS in very tiny print in their advertising then they give it a
marketing name like "Eduresall" or "Stongshell". If the name of
the shell material indicates longevity like a variation on Endurance,
run away.
These spa
companies are now putting the fact that the shells are made from ABS in
very tiny print......Run!
Even if they have great therapy, and some do, the spas will
not last.
Some have "lifetime warranties" they never honor, because the fine
print
negates the warranty. You can invalidate the warranty by
normal
use.
I always like to tell this story about my experience:
When I first got into the spa business, I was ignorant
about what was
involved in spa quality. Most spas looked good to
me. I had owned an antique, inground, custom installed spa
from the 1970's and
that was all I knew. That tub had no air jets, four water jets,
had
a swimming pool heater on it . The pump was a swimming pool one
speed
model and filter system was an adapted pool filter. There
were
no spa pumps available at that time.
I can remember the first day at the job. I was
standing in front
of a Ca$de@a spa that looked really good to me. It was acrylic
with
lots of nice jets, and a good looking cabinet. Modern
looking
and sleek. I thought is was really beautiful. While I
was
standing there looking at it sort of smiling, one of the delivery
guys
stopped by to introduce himself. I said I thought the spa "looked
good"
to me. He said : "That spa is a piece of s$it and we
are
getting rid of them. They have leaking problems, and the shells
and
wood are crap." I was a little confused to say the
least.
That was my first lesson in ABS shells with acrylic. The
spas
were referred to as "Crapderas". ( The company hasn't
changed
much in their manufacturing, except they are not as good of a lawn
sprinkler
as they used to be.)
I went to work as the service manager in this large spa
store in Denver.
We had thousands of service customers, and I oversaw each and every
service
ticket. We also did warranty work for five different spa
brands.
I saw a lot of manufacturing defects in action. (Since then we have
done warranty work for 16 differernt spa brands.)
Do not buy
a spa with ABS in the shell!
I can remember calling up the service guy at the Wi$d Riv%r
factory several times over cracks in the shells of these relatively
young spas, one to three years old. Each time I was
presented with the same denial
garbage. The factory representative would say: "The spa
must not be sitting on a solid flat
platform". After a while I got really tired of
this. I would say something like this. "Well!
It seems like all those spas with the cracks in exactly the same place
must all be on warped concrete." Then I would very politely ask
him to start honoring the warranty, which as
far as I know he never did. It was always deemed owner
"abuse". Do not buy a spa with ABS in the shell!
According to
engineering specifications from the manufactures of ABS and Acyrlic,
ABS expands 1.333 times more than acrylic.
Every C2L Spa owner from the last few years has told
me. They "love their spa", but when I ask them if they have had
any warranty problems, They all talked about cracks in the shell,
particularly all over the upper lip. When ever we
take one in as a trade, we set it outside and put a "FREE SPA" sign on
it.
ABS will expand
and pull apart
the
surface of the acrylic.
Using ABS plastic in a spa shell invites
cracks. The acrylic
is a very hard plastic, and the ABS is relatively
soft. When the two are bonded together very tightly,
we have what is know as dissimilar
materials manufacturing, which is not good. The expansion
rate
of ABS is faster than acrylic. As the spa shell is
subjected
to normal use, the materials expand and contract. Because they
are
bonded so tightly together, the ABS will expand and pull apart
the
surface of the acrylic. Something has to
give. The harder and slower expansion rate acrylic is
literally ripped apart over
time.
To this
day, the best method is acrylic with a sandwich of
vinyl ester
resin, then hand rolled fiberglass.
So what is the best method?
To this day, the best method is acrylic with a sandwich of
vinyl ester
resin, then hand rolled fiberglass. The vinyl ester resin seals
the acrylic and
creates a bond four times stronger than acrylic and fiberglass
alone. This method is also used on expensive boats. After
fifteen to twenty years of normal
care and use, the shell will have a few, easily reparable, surface
cracks.
Although nothing is perfect, this is the best method
known to
make a spa in a reasonable fashion. The problem is it costs
more
to make a good shell, so human nature and greed keeps people making
cheap
crummy shells because of the consumer ignorance.
When some scientist comes out with a better shell
material, I
will have it in my showroom. I believe that the next
generation will be a "space age" ceramic, one piece.
When someone comes into my showroom and asks almost
immediately how our spa shells are made, I know they have been burned
and are prior owners of poorly made spas.
I place these manufactures in the same category as phony
medicine vendors.
People are seeking relief from everyday stress, and are easy victims to
these
cheaply made over priced spas. Some of these spas are
sold
for as much as $9,000.00 (13K in 2005) by an amazing
calculated and psychologically
predicable sales pitch, designed by high paid "masters of
marketing".
Their showrooms are set up in a certain way to control the
sales.
They bring you through a complete well designed path through the store,
to
gain "control" of you. The spas are presented in a fantasy show
room,
with the cheapness of the product well hidden.
We have a converted warehouse, We show the spas with
the cabinets open, so you can see the insides. The framing, the
insulation, the equipment.
We are very different.
Our corporate policy is to educate our customers and to
give the best
possible service, without losing money. If we go out of business,
how
are we going to help our customers?
I have another bit of news. Our spas are not
cheap! However, the prices we have for this level of
quality is not attainable by
most other spa companies because of our exceptionally low marketing
overhead. We have no marketing department. We
have no " district sales people"; no "regional sale
managers", Just me and our web site and about 600 to 3,000 hits a
day. We now have spa owners from coast to
coast from north to south, east to west. Northern
Washington,
to Southern Florida. From Vermont to southern California.
People often ask me when I tell them of our internet
success: " Don't they make spas in Florida?" " Why are
people ordering spas from
Colorado?"
Our customers get an education, they buy from us with
knowledge. We have customers fly in on excursion flights
just to see and wet test the
spas. So far, all have purchased. Our spas are
that
much better for a real bargain price. Quiet, powerful,
exceptionally energy efficient, with real massage and strong
shells! They are
also beautiful!
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